Friday, February 13, 2015

Which tapestry loom is right for me? Part 2: High-warp looms

Last week I wrote a post about low-warp looms which you can read HERE. I use a low-warp loom for much of my weaving and we are partial to what we know. But I have been working hard to be less prejudiced learn more about high-warp looms and have even used the ones I own more often lately.

High-warp looms are the ones most people think of when you say tapestry. The warp runs mostly perpendicular to the floor and the work sits in front of the weaver much like it would when hung on a wall.

Almost a year ago now I started asking people to send me photos of their tapestry looms and tell me which were their favorites. Here is a compilation of responses with some photos. There are pros and cons to any loom, but clearly there are favorites among the tapestry community. If you want to add your favorite loom to the conversation, please leave a comment below or Contact me.

Lets start with a couple of the small looms. Most small looms for tapestry are little versions of the bigger high-warp tapestry looms. There are many kinds of small portable looms and a full review of these will have to wait for another day.

Smaller looms that function like a floor loom such as table looms and rigid heddle looms are very poor for tapestry weaving due to small beams, plastic parts, and weak tensioning ability.

Mirrix Looms

UPDATE 5/6/16: Mirrix just rolled out a loom called the "Sam Loom". I do not recommend this loom which is marketed for beginners. It is a basic 12-inch loom minus all the things that make Mirrix great. It has no tray coil and no shedding device. You need these things. Also, I don't advocate the warping method they show with this loom. Just so you know.

Mirrix is a US company that makes wonderful looms with high tensioning ability and a shedding device. The looms come in very tiny sizes for bead weaving. The tapestry looms start at 12 inches wide and go up to 38 inches wide. I own many of these looms and I love them because I get a great tension, they are sturdy, and they are made in the USA. Here is what a few people had to say about their Mirrix looms.
I work exclusively in reverse soumak in a small scale format and had a problem with tension - the technique requires drum tight tension. The only loom that works for me is the Mirrix and at the moment I have a 16" and a 12". They hold the tension for months at a time, can be used upright or flat and any angle in between. What more can one want - hard to improve on perfection!   --Charles Gee
I use my Mirrix Zach or Big Sister loom. I love the tensioning device. I have a small house, so the small foot print works well.  --Cheryl R
I used to often do an overnight for work so purchased a Mirrix Little Guy that I carried in my overnight bag and wove a number of small projects on it.  --Trish
The first loom that I purchased was a 32 inch Mirrix.  It is okay, but I found the shed to be too small for my large hands.  I modified things so that I have a bigger shed.  I use this loom primarily as a sample loom at this point, but I've completed several projects on it. --Allen Rumme
I am new to tapestry weaving. I started with a Mirrix Big Sister, and have since acquired a Hokett hand loom and a Mirrix Lani. I love the simplicity of warping all three.  --Liz Johnson
Liz Johnson's Mirrix and Hokett tapestry looms

Archie Brennan-style pipe loom

Archie has made these looms for sale over the years. The plans are still available on his website with many modifications floating around the internet. They are fairly simple to make and hold an excellent tension. The same principles are often used to make the larger pipe looms and scaffold looms many people use.

A very fancy copper pipe loom made by Jane Hoffman.
And now let's talk some about the big tapestry looms.

Fireside Cantilever

My Fireside Loom is wonderful with a worm gear....  I think the worm gear is great for tapestry. For me the Fireside Loom is outstanding it has all the features you could want in a high warp loom. --Dee
It probably is the sweetest loom of all, easy action and quite nice to work on.  It has a reed but not a beater.  --Tommye Scanlin
Tommye Scanlin's Fireside Cantilever tapestry loom

 Ashford Tapestry loom

The large Ashford surprised me. I got it for a steal used and I have to say it is a great loom. I love the circular warping feature it has and it holds very good tension with the tension screws. I also enjoy using leashes more than I thought I would. I did put a Mirrix spring set on top of the loom for warp spacing which has worked out well.  The Ashford requires leashes but for the price it is a very good loom. The fact that you can adjust the angle of your weaving on that loom is a great feature for comfort when weaving.  --Dee
Ashford tapestry loom

Glimakra Tapestry Loom

I use an upright Glimakra Tapestry Loom which they no longer make, but Joanne Hall, of Glimakra USA, has been really helpful in providing a copy of the original instructions. Things I like about it are the tensioning, the angle at which I weave and the fact that it has a relatively small 'footprint'. Things I struggle with are how to use the knobs at the top effectively in a small tapestry, setting up leashes and getting an even tension on the warps when using the warp beam.  --Matty
I believe the knobs on the top are for bout warping in which allows you to weave a section then untie the warp and twist the weaving, but if you have more details about their purpose, I'd love to hear about it.
Ulrikka Mokdad's Glimakra loom; tapestry by Ulrikka Mokdad
A student weaving on a Glimakra table-sized tapestry loom (Hi Millie!)

Shannock 

I have seen these large metal looms made by John Shannock frequently over the years. The 24 inch models are popular. I believe he also made four, six, and eight foot versions of this loom.
48" Shannock: This has the absolutely most amazing tension available of any of the looms I have.  However, the releasing of warp, when needed, then rolling up on cloth beam is accomplished in a tedious way... not hard, just tedious. Yet the way it's done makes it absolutely impossible to have the warp slipping.  Also, the threading of the heddle bars is fiddly and the bars are 24" wide.  I've yet to warp it for the full width, being not quite up to using two of the 24" bars side by side to get the full width.  I did, however, recently set mine up for 4 heddles and did a double sett with it. --Tommye Scanlin
Tommye Scanlin's Shannock
My most recent acquisition was a 72 inch Shannock.  Yes, I know it's a big loom, but I sort of fell into it and decided that I would never get another chance to buy one like this.  This loom is stronger than any of us would ever need.  I added a reed holder like Kathy Spoering did, and I modified the shedding devices along the lines of what Lyn Hart did to hers.  I also added some hardware to keep the treadles from moving all over the place.  They are just on a long tube and slide easily at the slightest provocation.  These things make the loom much friendlier to use.  I am not completely pleased with the size of the shed at this point and will probably make some additional modifications in this area. One thing that is a bit surprising is that the Shannock, even with its size, is not as imposing as the Tissart. The Tissart actually looks bigger because of the heddle frames and tracks.
On the treddles, I just used some black PVC pipe to make a spacer to keep the treddles separated, and then made some collars for either side.  The collars are held in place with nylon screws.  These exert enough pressure to hold the collars in place without damaging the tube.
--Allen Rumme
Allen Rumme's Shannock treadles modified so they don't slide.
8-foot Shannock of Cindy Dworzak. Note tensioning device at side just below top beam.

  Ruthie

Ruthie--60"  It was made by Crisp and hasn't been made since the 1980s.  However, the Fireside Traditional tapestry loom is based upon the design of the Ruthie, from what I've been told. It has a beater that's counterweighted.  It has three sets of two treadles each. --Tommye Scanlin
Tommye Scanlin's Ruthie loom with tapestry by Tommye

Tissart, made by Leclerc

Tissart--45"  Modifications I've made to it are adding two more treadle sets (it now has three sets of two each); having John Shannock custom make a top beam (to correct some warping I had through the years with the beam); and I C-clamp the beater up to its highest point since I build shapes rather than working from selvedge to selvedge.  (I still find having the reed in the beater useful, though).  This was my first upright tapestry loom.  The Tissart hasn't been made by Leclerc in many years. --Tommye Scanlin
Tommye Scanlin cutting a piece off her 45" Tissart
My workhorse loom is a 60" Leclerc Tissart tapestry loom.  I use it primarily for my rugs, but since my rugs have many tapestry like elements I'll say that I use it for tapestry.  This loom requires some strengthening to be usable for rugs and tapestry, as the top and bottom beams flex quite a bit under the kind of tension that I need.  I have strengthened both with heavy, 2 inch angle iron.  This improves the situation quite a bit.  The smaller Tissart looms are probably a little sturdier given that these beams are shorter.  The counterbalance shedding device works well, and the shed is plenty large. --Allen Rumme
Allen Rumme's Tissart

Leclerc Gobelin loom

There's one photo of three looms together... one is the Shannock (on the right), the middle is the Fireside Cantilever, and the left hand side is the Leclerc loom that's sort of like the Gobelin style and sort of like the Tissart... the one that supposedly came from Black Mountain College.  It has harnesses, a beater and treadles.
Tommye's further description of the Leclerc: And now I've got another Leclerc sort of hybrid, kind of like the Gobelin style you have (and I once had) and kind of like the Tissart.  Apparently it wasn't a production model of loom but I can't find more about it's history.  Supposedly came from a "famous" weaver at Black Mountain College (surely not Anni Albers... maybe, though, Trude Guermonprez?).  That loom I got from someone who'd gotten it from Warren Wilson College 20+ yrs ago, and WWC had gotten it from BMC.  Anyway... history somewhere lost in the web of time! --Tommye Scanlin
(Does anyone know anything about Tommye's loom? It is like a murder mystery novel but with loom origin... and what it if WAS Anni's or Trudi's? Would that explain Tommye's astounding abilities in tapestry? No. Likely that comes from all her hard work. Make sure to look at Tommye's blog for continuous useful information about tapestry. http://tapestry13.blogspot.com/)
Looms left to right: Leclerc, Fireside Cantilever, Shannock. Tommye Scanlin
My Leclerc is the old Gobelin style loom. Mine doesn't have the shedding mechanism and I use leashes. You can buy a shedding mechanism that uses treadles. You can't see in the photo below, but there are tensioning screws on the sliding wooden bar that the bottom beam rests in. I can achieve a very high tension on this loom. Advancing the warp means rolling the top and bottom beam which works on a pall and ratchet system. It is a sturdy and uncomplicated loom.

Rebecca Mezoff's Leclerc Gobelin tapestry loom

Brittany

This loom was made in the 70s in California by the same people who make Brittany knitting needles/ crochet hooks. It is solid walnut with a "rolling" heddle. In the first pic you can see the frame which can hold a warp 17.5 inches wide and 70" around.  It came with some batons, a tension rod, some skinny dowels, and the rolling heddle (which you can see propped on the bottom of the frame and in the close-up 2nd picture.  The slots that are shorter on the front of the heddle are longer on the back and vice versa for the long slots on the front.  After you warp the loom, you remove the skinny dowel in the heddle and place the warps in the slots.  The warps go in opposing slants; when you 'roll' the heddle forward it opens one shed, and when you 'roll' it backward it opens the other.  --Kristin Merritt
Brittany Tapestry Loom of Kristin Merritt
Brittany Tapestry loom, detail

Scaffold Looms


Looms are actually not that difficult to make according to the many fans of scaffold looms.
Dorothy Clews scaffold loom
Many of our most revered tapestry artists use them. Here are two:
Susan Martin Maffei working at the top of her scaffold loom
And Archie Brennan. If you haven't watched this YouTube video, there are several examples of scaffold looms in it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ne6WI5uozQs


And for a stunning video demonstrating high warp weaving from the Dovecot in Scotland, please give this video some time. Click HERE to see it on Vimeo or watch below.



And I would just like to end with this excellent story told by Tommye Scanlin:
And this is what Archie [Brennan] had to say to a group of us in a workshop once when we were sitting around talking about what was the "best" tapestry loom to have.  This was afternoon discussion time, we were sitting in a circle of chairs, Archie and Susan [Martin Maffei] among the students.  The discussion began with a question from one of us about what would be the best tapestry loom to have.  And then we all began to describe what we had, features of the looms we like, etc.  The dialogue went on for several minutes.  Finally someone asked Archie for his opinion... he settled back in his chair, arms crossed over his chest, said: "The quality of the weaving starts with the weaver and moves out...."

18 comments:

  1. This is absolutely great! I appreciate the opportunity to learn about other looms. I have a favorite which has 2m weaving width but is not made anymore. I can not see how to add a picture here, I left a small one at your FB post.
    I also bought another big loom from Victoria (Australia) which was set up for carpet weaving. The mechanics of moving the shafts was so physically hard to use that I dismantled it. I tried to copy the way my own loom works but because of the weight of the shafts and the depth of the loom it is not working well. Would you have any info about different shaft movements on upright looms? Or know where I could search? Any help would be greatly appreciated!
    Thanks again for a great blog!

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  2. Excellent post Rebecca, looms are quite interesting from any vantage point. I am waiting on a Fireside Cantilever loom which should be coming in the next month or so. I have grown to love my LeClerc Gobelin but I am excited by the worm gear on the Fireside! I will be happy to keep both of these looms occupied as I have discovered I enjoy working fairly large. Of course Mirrix is still my loom of choice for smaller pieces, so sturdy and easy to use.

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  3. Love this whole article. Thank you! I have a 54" walking loom from Weaving Southwest(with brakes/gears on both sides), and a Glimakra 60" tapestry loom with double brakes, as well. I love them both. Also have a couple of Mirrix looms which are lovely for smaller pieces, and one of their nifty new electric shed changers. Love them all.

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  4. Thanks, Rebecca, for both this blog and your previous low-warp looms blog. For a beginner like me, this research is really valuable. My Mirrix works fine for now, but I've begun searching the Internet for other options. You're like our very own search engine! Thanks much.

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  5. As a beginner, with previous slight exposure to tapestry weaving, I enjoyed all the information and examples of different looms. The video of the creation of "The Glass Onion" was wonderful.

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  6. How wonderful to see so many photos of high-warp tapestry looms, the brand names I've been seeing in weaving publications for 30 years. I have a Glimakra "Sara" and a Glimakra "Regina," and will send you photos when the Regina is warped.

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  7. Thanks for this post and, more generally, for providing a space for these discussions. I have the opportunity to buy a 60" Glimakra Regina. A major concern for me is comfort. I now use an old Hagen frame loom, and back pain is a constant companion. Would a low warp loom be better? I'd appreciate any wisdom on achieving comfort while weaving.

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    1. Hi Elizabeth. The Regina is supposed to be a great loom (I have never tried one). But there is a difference ergonomically between weaving on an upright loom and a low warp loom of course. I suppose where the pain is makes a difference (low back pain or coming from your shoulders or neck). What also makes a big difference is whether you are raising your arms to weave too high on the Hagen. I don't know if you can advance the warp on that loom (I thought you could?), but if you're keeping the weaving down below your shoulder level and you're still having back pain, then you might want to try a low warp loom. Without seeing how you are positioned at the loom, it is hard for me to know. But generally if you are reaching much above mid-chest level and certainly if you're reaching above shoulder level constantly, then that can lead to low back pain. As with anything repetitive, you should get up every 30 minutes or so and at the very least every hour no matter what loom you're using. Of course you can adjust the height of the weaving on the Regina to compensate for this reaching problem of some high-warp looms.
      I love my low warp loom ( I use a Harrisville rug loom which I think is the best tapestry loom ever invented), but some people have difficulties with their necks on low warp looms. You are having more neck flexion to work on a low warp loom though I think it is far easier on your shoulders and back. Any piece of equipment can cause pain if not set up properly of course! Do you know anyone who has a floor loom, even if they don't use it for tapestry, that they would let you weave on for awhile? Even if you're just throwing a shuttle it'll give you some idea if you like the positioning. That, or see if you can lay the Hagen down in approximately the configuration you'd have on a floor loom. Just some thoughts.

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  8. Great! Just found more information about my loom! I appreciate all your help and I am thinking of taking your online classes when I have a free moment! Thanks again!

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  9. We just bought a 45" Tissart and it has the two "L" brackets on the top of the castle or slide for the harnesses. Do you know what these brackets are for?? I wrote to LeClerc and was told "It is probable to afix a board". Feels like they didn't really know. Thanks for your help with this. Will and Lyvon

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    1. Sorry Will, I just don't know. I don't have a Tissart and I'm having trouble even imagining what you mean by the "castle" on this loom (a term which I think is a little hard to use with upright tapestry looms as they are configured so differently--but perhaps you mean on the part that holds the two shafts).

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  10. Hi Rebecca,
    Re the Glimakra tapestry loom knobs, they are for tensioning the warp in small sections. Sometimes when you have a wide warp it is near impossible to get enough tension from the beam. (Mine has a broken peg) It is simply an alternative tensioning method. I have taken off the knobs and installed a spacing spring at the top, so I don't need a reed for spacing. Mine is set up like Ulrikka's, with the leash bar supports attached on the inside of the uprights, just above the upper beam ratchet, so the leashes are high enough to work with, and not getting in the way. Love this loom.

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    1. Thanks Kristin! I believe you can also use the knobs for bout warping which is cool--twisting parts of the weaving then becomes possible.

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  11. Is it a good idea to add bottom warping spring? I weave 13” tapestries at 14epi.

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    1. Yes, a bottom spring is a great idea. This is my old blog and is no longer updated. You'll find all this content and a lot of new stuff on my website at https://rebeccamezoff.com/blog/

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  12. Hi Rebecca. I wonder if anyone would have any idea of the weight of the large Shannock loom? Thanks, Trish

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    1. Hi Trish, this is my old blogger blog and it is unlikely anyone will see this comment here at all. The same post can be found here on my current blog. https://rebeccamezoff.com/blog/2015/02/which-tapestry-loom-is-right-for-me_13.html?rq=high-warp
      I don't know how heavy a Shannock is, but I'm guessing they're pretty heavy! There are many tapestry artists who have them, so if you're on Facebook, asking in one of the tapestry groups there should get you a fairly good answer. I'd say that a 6 foot one must weigh 3-400 pounds? That is a wild guess. They are made of metal and are quite hefty. Maybe more than that.

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